Phillip Schofield accused Kim Woodburn of having a row on Celeb Juice five years ago during an interview with the feisty character on This Morning on Monday.
But it turns out it was so bad that Rufus Hound claims he quit the show because of it.
In a podcast with Richard Herring which was broadcast in 2013, Hound said they had a ‘personal’ row which spiralled out of control while filming the show which was edited out.
Having said he felt ‘marginalised’ on the show, he said his feud with Kim and ‘lack of support’ from the show made his mind up for him.
He said: ‘She was chatting away to Keith Lemon and he asked her: “Have you got much coming up?”
‘She said, “I don’t think the people who make TV would want me anymore”. And I said, genuinely, honestly, “Don’t do yourself down. People will always need a cleaner”.
‘She looked at me and said something on the lines of, “When I want an opinion of a fat man, I’ll stand outside Gregg’s”.
‘It was a proper f*** you, an old-fashioned f*** you, and I just sort of laughed to myself that here she was having a dig because I genuinely hadn’t meant it as an insult. It really f***ing spiralled out of control.’
Rufus said that he wasn’t prepared to take the insults lying down and so he gave as good as he got.
He said: ‘It ended up really horrible. She was trying to be deliberately personal, and by the point it got to that place, I was like, “OK, because I’m a stand-up comedian and if you want to start heckling, I’m good at this”. And so I was personal back.
‘She basically kept saying I was fat. But I did end up saying, “That’s a bit rich coming from a woman who looks like a face drawn on a deflating party balloon”.’
Rufus claimed that Kim refused to leave the building without an apology and producers asked him to do so.
He said: ‘She started with the personal stuff. I asked, “Why are you insisting I go and apologise to her? You should say, sorry, it didn’t work out, but it won’t be in the final edit” – and it was not. If you watch it back, we get on famously.
‘But they made me go and apologise, and I was like, “I will do it because you’re my friends. Here’s one thing, though, right?
‘”If I do it, you have to give me a copy of the tape. I know it will never go out. It will never be seen. I will sign whatever it is you need me to sign that says I will never put it on YouTube and I will never show it to people, but I’m sure she started that – by being horrible.
‘”I want to be able to watch it back, because I want to know for my own peace of mind what happened is how I remember it happened”.
‘They said, “Absolutely”. So I was like, okay.’
But Rufus was never given the tape and said they never would have.
He said: ‘That was sort of the point of it all. They had this sense of, I should be grateful of being on this big hit show, but what they never understood was, the thing I set out in comedy wasn’t about being on a show like Celebrity Juice.
‘For me to keep being on Celebrity Juice, they needed to have room for me in it, and they weren’t interested in it.
‘And they eventually said, “You need to cheer up to be here”, and I said, “Make me happy. Cheer me up”. And they said “Take two weeks off and think about it”, and then two days later…’
Kim caused absolute ripples in the Celebrity Big Brother house with her acid-tongue and fiery nature.
But she showed she’s as passionate as ever as she had a very heated argument with Phillip Schofield during an interview on This Morning on Monday, threatening to ‘crucify him’ and calling him a ‘phoney’.
Before the interview even started, Phillip Schofield and Holly Willoughby checked in on the Loose Women and saw Kim and Coleen Nolan together in the link.
When Coleen was asked if there was anything she’d like to say to Kim, Coleen smiled and said, ‘No…’ Kim replied, ‘I feel the same way dear’… And viewers could hear Linda Robson say, ‘No one likes a sore loser love!’
When Phillip asked what she thinks when she looks back at some of the footage, Kim said, ‘I look back with sadness that it came to that and I said those things, but I’m not sorry I said them.
‘What was happening to me, you’d have to have been a saint and I’m not. I’ve apologised for using the word beginning with “F” and that’s the only shame I feel.’
She continued: ‘I knew it would be filthy, dirty and stinky.’ Phillip interjected: ‘Aren’t you the best person to clean it up?’
‘No I am not,’ she said. ‘I went on there to be a housemate, not a cleaner.’
Slagging off her housemates, she went on to say that she felt people ganged up on her in the house.
‘They are cowards and it was disgusting,’ she said.
‘You say one thing to one person and then whoosh.’
Phillip said that people had seemed to get on with her on the first night but her reaction to Chloe Ferry splashing her with water was disproportionate.
‘No it was not, Phillip,’ she said. ‘You were not there. She was jumping around with her private parts out.
‘If you are not going to wear knickers, then keep your legs together. You were not there. I did not dislike Chloe by the way.’
Kim believes that arriving late into the house was her downfall as people who do always suffer.
On the night she had to be removed from the Big Brother house, Kim said, ‘When you go in very late, you’re in for a bit of a wallop anyway…’
Phillip said: ‘But that didn’t happened to Chloe and that didn’t happen to Jessica, they weren’t treated like that.’
Kim replied: ‘They weren’t people that wanted to say a word out of place. They wanted to put up with it and I don’t put up with it. Phillip, you were not in there, I know what I went through. I went through hell on earth. They said, “get back to your cleaning woman”…’
Phillip said: ‘Well you said worse!’
Holly, a little nervous, asked her: ‘Why not leave if you didn’t like it?’
‘Why should I go?’ she hit back. ‘And lose all that money, massive sums of money for those bums. Would you lose a house?’
‘How much did you earn?’ Phillip asked.
‘It’s nothing to do with you,’ she snapped back. ‘How much do you earn?’
‘Well it’s nothing to do with you either,’ he retorted. ‘But don’t you reckon you’d have got on so much better if you’d just been nicer? If you’d been a nice person?’
Kim replied, ‘I think I am a nice person. I’d like you to have a word with all the crew I’d ever worked with, I am very very polite.’
‘I don’t know that you always polite,’ he said. ‘I heard about a row you had on Celeb Juice, referencing the row with Hound.’
‘Oh did you dear,’ she said scornfully.
She also spoke about her distaste for fellow housemate Nicola McLean.
‘She caused everything. A nasty piece of work. When you have seven or eight people that are frightened to offend you… and she’s a force to be reckoned with.
‘But she hasn’t reckoned with me yet. She told me in no uncertain terms and I thought “you cheeky madam”, and she said “we don’t argue in this house”
‘And I said “says who?” but it was nothing to do with her was it? She’s not momma of the house.”
Phillip replied: ‘But then that sounds like you actually wanted to row…’
Kim said: ‘I don’t want to be bossed around by that stupid woman. I was employed by Channel 5 and I said to Channel 5, if you put me in there, I never look for trouble. But if you bring it to me I will crucify you!’
She continued: ‘Those pigs in there. You weren’t there Phillip. You saw 45 minutes.’
Kim also revealed that she didn’t feel Coleen Nolan was a worthy winner.
She said: ‘She was as nice as pie to me but little did I know she was pulling me apart in the smoking area.’
‘I know Coleen and she’s a nice person,’ Phillip said.
‘She’s a horrible person,’ she roared back.
‘You’ve got a long time to work on television, I’m 74, if I never got another television show, I couldn’t give a toss! You see, I’m not a diplomat like you. And I am telling you the truth.
‘Jedward should have won. And you know why? Those boys were themselves. Honest good boys… It was a cheat.’
When asked if she has any regrets, she said she didn’t.
She said: ‘I loved the money. Adorable! It beats cleaning lavvies! But no, I may be 74, but don’t mess with me…don’t bully me, I’ve been around for too long.’
Holly said, ‘I wouldn’t, I’m terrified!’